Spurscast #279: Spurs latest signing and Summer League talk
Jeff Garcia and Paul Garcia joined me while we are all in San Antonio to record the long-awaited next episode of the Spurscast.
After attending a media session at the Spurs practice facility, we talked about the San Antonio Spurs' recent flurry of signings, bringing back their own free agents in Tim Duncan, Danny Green, Boris Diaw and Patty Mills. We also talked about the official signing of French guard Nando De Colo, which R.C. Buford said would be official yesterday.
Since we got a chance to talk to a few Summer League players and coach Jacque Vaughn, we pointed out some key players to watch for when the Spurs tip off in Vegas tomorrow. Eric Dawson is one player to watch out for. Dawson is a blue-collar workhorse, who would love to make it back to his hometown of San Antonio full-time.
We apologize for the time between podcasts recently, but be sure to also check out our Sports Roundtable video show, which we now tape every few weeks in the offseason. For more of myself, Jeff and Paul, be sure to look for that video.
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Oh yeah rtesoro, I forgot to mention another reason why Cavs would be foolish to even consider trading Zeller..He's the ONLY Center they have..lol You will see on Trade machine
IT WILL NOT PUT US UNDER CAP. And how exactly do you think your trade for Andy would work? Andy makes an average of 9.5 mil over next 2 yrs and bon/blair/neal make 5.5 mil TOGETHER..try to consider what is ACTUALLY workable or use trade machine or something before you suggest all these IMPOSSIBLE scenarios and maybe so many people wont be shooting you down here so much.. As for Zeller, WHY would cavs do that? If Spurs just got a high draft pick that COULD end up being pretty good, do you think they would just immediately dump him without even seeing him play a SINGLE game? Also Blair and Neal could likely only end up as 1 yr rentals for them since they both have deals ending this year..Sorry, AGAIN, this makes NO sense and will NOT happen
If it does not put the Spurs under the cap, it does not put the Spurs under the cap. It simply means that the Spurs can't bid for Scola. But the possibility of a trade if the cavs sign Scola and they trade Varejao or Zeller is present. It's 3 warm bodies against 1. Why shouldn't it be feasible? The cavs has an excess of frontline players with Thompson in the lineup. So what if Blair and Neal have expiring contracts and Verajao is receiving more? That's the beauty of it all, they are dumping the burden on the Spurs and at the same time they have expiring contracts in their hands. So what if the pay is not at par? Is this not allowed? It depends on the trading parties. To your view, it appears NOT possible but it could be done. And why would people shoot at me? Because of the reasons you gave? Come on, you were given 25 pts for your work. I was given 120 pts!
@rtesoro440 Sorry, but its NOT my VIEW, it's reality! Its not feasible because the salaries are not close enough for the trade to be legal..just like I explained before. I guess I assumed that you knew salaries had to be similar..if you don't believe me, then go to trade machine and try it..I guarantee you will see a result of THIS TRADE FAILED espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine is the link Furthermore, it would matter to Cavs getting 2 players that only have 1 yr deals because they could lose them the very next season. You are assuming that Cavs would just be "dumping" Andy because his contract is a burden, when the reality is that His contract is on par with what bigs like him are getting. For them it would only be about having better options at his position, or the likelihood that they are trying to make room for Bynum because now its looking like he may end up there in 3 way LA/cav/magic deal..And obviously the point differential is meaningless re: our posts because simply put you are WRONG and I am RIGHT.lol All that means is that there are likely more people that dont understand how trades work than those that do. And don't misunderstand, I'm not trying to just be negative or even disrespectful, if anything I'm trying to help you and others understand how things work so everyone understands that there ARE concrete limitations on what can be done re: trades, amnesty, cap etc. I'm no expert, but I've been an NBA fan since about 1976, and I do take the time to learn about the ins & outs of the league. In the future I would suggest using trade machine to explore such things, its interesting and informative
@rtesoro440 Ok I just used trade machine, and doing bonner and tiago works for Andy, for example..because salaries are close match..Problem is its highly doubtful Cavs would want it imo(and would any of us be ok with losing splits AND bon)..You always have to consider what BOTH teams want..or think will make respective teams better. And in this case, its saying Spurs are projected to lose 10 more games than last yr with this trade and Cavs ALSO being losers by 8 games post-trade. Conversely, try Sjax for Andy AND Casspi and it works, but again Cavs would be -8 post- trade and Spurs projected as even. Unfortunately, as we all know jax has burned many bridges, is older, and isnt nearly as appealing as many ppl may think. ONLY plus would be his large expiring deal. All that said you would still have bonner in silver/black and if Im not mistaken, thats one of your main goals in trading at all.lol (and although Im not a bonner HATER..or lover, I do wish we could get a better piece for him) But I know with trades, it takes two to tango, and both teams generally want to at least THINK they got the better part of the deal. For us fans, its EASY to throw a trade out there and think "hey FO, get this done ASAP" But the reality is that trades are VERY DIFFICULT to get done..and us being spurs fans generally imo have it even tougher than most because Spurs FO are NOTORIOUSLY close-lipped about moves of any kind and that ends up kinda throwing fuel on the fire (in that many spurs fans just think "FO isnt even TRYING to make moves") I have been following Spurs long enough to know they are always working to improve and I dont expect to hear about every move being looked at. Using poker as an analogy, it wouldnt make much sense to show everyone your hand, would it? Another reason why we should appreciate our stellar FO...my 2 cents
The cavs to bid on Scola. Interesting. Some analysts say that should this happen, the cavs may be ready to trade Varejao and even Zeller. I don't know if the cavs will be amenable to a blair/Bon,ner/Neal trade for Varejao or even Zeller. But the proposittion seems attractive specially to the Spurs that need a big man. But offhand, if amnestying Bonner and waiving Blair and Neal will place the Spurs below the salary cap, I would rather see them bid on Scola outright. But if the cavs make a bid on Scola and win, I have no quarrel for a trade for Varejao or Zeller. It seems the bidding has NOT commenced, the Spurs have all the time in the world to act if they really want Scola. But wait, remember that wire that the Warriors might be willing to look at Blair provided the trade is other than a 1st round draft? Well, Zeller is a 1st round draft that the Spurs are looking for to trade Blair and Zeller is long, young, athletic or Varejao, who is experienced and long and athletic. Either way, I think this answers the issue of having a big man. Opportunities keep croping up. It for the Spurs to take action. They can't afford to get without giving. Do soemthing Spurs!
