The San Antonio Spurs offseason is underway which means it's time to look at the roster and team salary cap heading into the 2013-14 season.
The Spurs will have eight players under contract:
Tim Duncan at $10,361,446 (final contract season)
Tony Parker at $12,500,000
Matt Bonner at $3,945,000 (final contract season)
Danny Green at $3,762,500
Kawhi Leonard at $1,991,760 (team option in 2014-15)
Nando De Colo at $1,463,000 (final contract season)
Cory Joseph at $1,182,600 (team option in 2014-15)
Aron Baynes at $788,872 (qualifying offer in 2014-15)
Manu Ginobili, DeJuan Blair and Tracy McGrady
Boris Diaw ($4,702,500), and Patty Mills ($1,133,950)
Free Agent/Qualifying Offers:
Tiago Splitter ($4,930,000), and Gary Neal ($1,116,099)
Blair more than likely will not return next season. The Spurs have been trying to shop him for the past two seasons so expect him to find another team to sign him.
McGrady will more than likely not be in a Spurs uniform.
Bonner is in his final contract season so will the Spurs dangle his expiring contract as trade bait? Same goes for De Colo. De Colo complained about playing time in the postseason, so do the Spurs give him the minutes he crave or use his expiring contract as bait for a trade?
The Spurs will pick up Leonard's option and get that done next season.
Joseph showed some major strides this regular season and stepped up at times in the playoffs. Spurs could pick up his option to give him some serious minutes as Parker needs a solid backup as he gets older.
Diaw and Mills will likely pick up their player options.
Ginobili will retire a Spur. The question is how much will the team offer him when he clearly looked like on his last legs in the deep postseason run and especially in the Finals versus the Heat.
Splitter had a great regular season, improved his play and stats but fizzled out in the Finals. Did he hurt his stock in the postseason? Perhaps but his less-than-stellar play may allow the Spurs to offer him a smaller contract and not overpay him.
Neal played so-so throughout the regular season but maybe the Spurs will pass on him to open up a roster spot to bring in a free agent.
What do you have to say Spurs fans? Based on what you see, what roster moves should the team make in the offseason?
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I'm a mavs fan,but the spurs are one of my favorite teams so I think the spurs should let some of the guys go and they should go after Andre iguodala
@Eddie123 a Mavs and Spurs fan? That's a rarity. I'd love Iggy too, but not at the $12-$14 million he's likely going to command. Too expensive for us, especially if/when we re-sign Splitter.
If someone offers Splitter more than $6 million a year, let him walk. He's not worth that much money. You need guys you can rely on in the playoffs, not ones that disappear in the big games. T-Mac and Blair are gone. Mills and Diaw will likely pick up their player options. We need to spend our money on one or two top-tier FA's instead of bringing in a bunch of role players who disappear in the playoffs. Millsap or Iguodala would both be great (one or the other, can't afford both). Al Jefferson is't a good fit in our PnR offense. He's a ball stopper and he's slow footed. He needs the ball in the post to succeed. Millsap would be my first choice. And then find a good player in the draft.
@SpursDynasty - Fully agree with Millsap or Iguodala! Paul Millsap with Tim Duncan on the court would be an unbelievable mix. We need another solid big for rebounds because it is too much work for Duncan down the one end and then expecting him to dominate on the other. I think he would suit the Spurs style of play (i.e. everyone works hard and at any given day any player can have 20 and 10). Baynes should be utilised in regular season as the backup for Duncan and Millsap (hopefully). He will be a beast in a couple of years. 15 and 10 player for sure. He needs the opportunity though.
@SpursDynastyi think if the spurs can draft Dieng he can take place what Splitter does for the spurs at much better price, and more he is much more athletic
We need to get tyreke evans. Good young player, underachieving right now because he is on a bad team. Can handle the ball and get to the basket. He plays good d, him and Leonard would b tough on the perimeter
Spurs can resign Manu at a discounted price. He is still very good at 36, but don't overextend his playing time.
The only good thing is Manu will come cheap. No way do the SAS let him leave via free agency. The organization is loyal to him.
@JeffProjectSpurs I thought the same about Hill and Bowen and they were both traded. I luv manu but fell out real quick, i think it will be best to move on and bring in a younger player to be the difference maker off the bench
if Manu retires Spurs have about 15 mil to spend to fill our cap space without paying the luxury tax. I say sign Andre Iguodala to a near max contract (roughly about 11+ mil per year). But Spurs still need to fill the rest of the roster spots with international talent + undrafted + and drafted talent. And Spurs are the best at finding players to fit the system for really cheap. With half our bench in FA we are losing alot of depth and chemistry. And we CANNOT trade Bonner he was huge against Memphis and LA. When teams play big against us we have a big in Bonner to spread the floor to pull away a big from the opposing teams basket. Giving Parker and Duncan room to operate. Im iffy about Tiago. He's turnover prone when doubled and his post game is nonexistent. And he can't play 30+ mins a night. If we can sign him for cheap Id take it. His stock went down during the post season so I dont expect many teams to make a hard push for him. I also say we should try to add Al Farouq Aminu (free agent from NO) if we dont get Iguodala. He is a 6'9" SF that can play backup SF behind Leonard and if we play small he can play PF. He can rebound and play good def. We need another wing def because the 2 best players in the game are Durant and LeBron. And the Spurs coaching staff can help improve Aminu's shooting like they did with Leonard and Green.
I would love to see Splitter on the court with the splash brothers. Splitter will have more room to roll to the basket if these idiots don't want him.
Sign and Trade Splitter and/or Blair to GSW for Jarret Jack! , he will be the replacement for Manu, and if Manu retires, that leave cap room to sign a big like Al Jefferson! Makes absolute sense!
Manu this Manu that he's done don't bring him back he needs to retire, I'm sick of hearing it Ginobili not going anywhere when is the last time anyone has heard of the spurs not taking care of their star players NEVER!!!!!! Ginobili has helped bring three championships to San Antonio so don't throw him under the bus. Basically the problem was him playing the back up point guard roll and not his normal position were he could just play his game, spurs me too continue
@ZILLA I'am not throwing manu under the bus but he is done playing every summer back in his country and never resting his body has killed his game......
@ZILLA Agree with you! He's not a backup PG but he is a real backup SG at this stage of his career! He was just forced to do too much during games 6 & 7 because of Tony's hamstring injury.
I think we have SJ's 10mil, maybe $10mil saved on Manu at vet minimum, Blairs, Neals, and yes Bonner is only guaranteed 1mil if released saving another 2.5mil. Available at under $6mil are: Earl Clark, Corey Brewer, Marco Belllineli, Aminu, X Henry, Dorrel Wright. The D league had Jamychal Green, J Tyler (PF), then we have J Denman, R Richards, Hanga, draft picks, etc. We have spots and money enough to upgrade positions. Clark can shoot outside, play defense, rebound, Brewer is a taller Manu, Bellineli is a bigger Neal, but better position defender, Green or Aminu, or Wright are all 6-8-9" and can shoot block shots, play defense, and shoot outside, who knows about the Euro's, or draft picks, but we have resources that can make us a much more formidable team without losing anything we counted on this year. CJ will be a good back up, Kawhi will grow, DG may never be able to handle the ball (remember RJ) Brewer does ok, Henry and Belllineli have handles, and we will still have Manu.
The future is bright if Holt will spend what he has available under the cap and sentimentality don't rule the day. I love Gary, Matt, Patty, but upgrade we must. This is the time to both build up for another title run, while preparing the future.
@jojo707 I agree with you we need another SF/PF to backup Leonard. I say get Aminu. He's a FA this summer and Spurs coaching would help improve his outside shooting. Plus we can stretch him to the PF when Spurs play small because he's 6'9." If not Aminu get Earl Clark
Spurs should have at least 32 mil on salary cap next season. Let's spend money wisely on quality players rather than filling up 15 bodies at the mid-range salary and when playoff comes nobody is great enough to play. Miami is younger, more talents than Spurs and their bench. We lost because our bench is not good enough to relieve TD and TP for some rest. There are an idiot blame TP instead Manu for the loss made me laugh so hard. And blame coach Pop for benching TD. Well, Pop benched TD with 4 min left in GS series of game 6. Turn out Spurs won. So don't be running your stupid foul mouth in the blog. Players must make free throw and play tight defense. What I see Ray Allen shot is exactly Sean Elliott's shot against Portland 1999-2000 series WF. It's just a lucky one and TD missed the shot over Battier was just a bad luck. Perhaps, it is not meant to be for us to win this year. Remember to win championship always includes luck, health, and talents.
@Gospurs2013 not sure where you got the 32m? if every player with an option, opts out the spurs would still have 36m on the books guaranteed money. now diaw im 100% will opt in, so that takes us to just shy of 41, then if the spurs extend an offer to splitter and land him (nobody offers him more that we have to match or let him go) then we are at 45+. if mills opts in (doubt it) then thats another 1.1 mil, so that takes us to 46+ mil. then there is gary neal. do we match reasonable offers? hes going to get offers upwards of 3 mil. if by some chance he doesnt then ad another 1.1 mil. all told this puts the spurs about 48 mil on the salary cap. still under the cap so we COULD bid on amnesty players or spend the money outright if we like. i like a josh smith and tony allen if we do get in the 41 mil range though.
@JohnAbney @Gospurs2013 drop Bonner, trade DeColo for draft pick, buy out Mills, Splits can stay if under $6mil, replace Neal, Luxury tax is likely at 70mil, cap near 60mil, we have lots of room, but a big free agent, unless someone that fits what we do, makes no sense. J Smith would never fit, Al Jeff, the same. Young guys with potential tat can grow with Kawhi seem like a better idea. We have strong core or guys,we just need better back ups and some defenders of the paint to give TD a break.
Ginobili didn't look like he was on his last legs. He looked like he was trying to compensate for some loss of speed, and took more chances (many of the bad). I hope that either he retires and joins the coaching staff because his brain got him where his body would not have, or that he stays on as a mentor player and gets appropriate pay/minutes. But under no circumstance would I want him to be insulted. Dude did a lot for the Spurs, especially his bold attitude. Spurs are still that "corporate team" without him.
The Spurs are fine..if anything lack of experience could bring them down again... K.L#2 will be something else.
spurs need more playmakers that we can count on. we also need another big man who can be depended upon to block shots and score down low. tiago is just terrible and garbage. al jefferson or paul millsap would be a good signing and another guy who can create for himself and others to help out manu and parker
@zerospurs Your full of crap. Your not going to get someone better than Tiago for the money he made.
The thing about the NBA off season now that the paradigm has shifted to the 'superteam' era is that there is so much uncertainty until the first few dominoes topple. Actually, its always hinged on the first few signings with the teams that miss out scrambling to catch up or reload(by unloading) for the next crop.
In terms of free agents, who is out there that fits a need? Who can we afford? Who will fit the system. We saw how it ended with Jack and while I dearly would loved to have had him available last night or in game six......eh, past is past.
Maybe we will see some decent names get amnestied but then, they go into a waiver wire type scenario. Heck, if he's cheap enough, bring back TMac. Can't hurt. Send him to summer league if he really wants to demonstrate he's willing to be a good fit.
I'm more inclined to add one or two vets while cultivating youth. I don't want to part ways with someone like Gary Neal and bring in an older guy who gives us the same thing at more money. Not saying we should keep Neal per se but making changes for the sake of change is not the best course.
Blair leaves. McGrady retires. Baynes plays summer league and gets better like Leonard did. Somebody offers Splitter money and he leaves or goes back to eoroleague. Neal leaves for more money. Manu takes less money and remains a Spur (primarily as a mentor). Diaw and Mills hang around although Mills might be included in a deal. Bonner makes up part of a deal in a trade. DeColo also goes in a trade because he wants more playing time. Joseph becomes "the" backup PG. Green spends his summer working on his ballhandling and passing skills. Duncan returns. Leonard's team option gets picked up without question. Overseas stashes all show up for summer league play with the knowledge that they can all be signed or traded...how they do decides the question. Spurs move up in the draft by some of the trades mentioned earlier. Just my guesses...last time I checked the FO was not asking for my advice! The only thing I know for sure id that I have been a Spurs fan since the franchise arrived in SA and I remain a Spurs fan!
I hate that I'm so ready to consider these things at this moment but life goes on.
I'm afraid that someone out there will get shut out in the max FA sweepstakes and desperately back the Brinks truck up for Splitter.
I've always liked DeJuan Blair but knowing he's gone, swapping in Aron Baynes is an equitable exchange and Baynes may even be better.....heck, may be better than Tiago give time to learn the system. At least he has a jumper whereas Tiago seems physically incapable of shooting a jump shot.
If DeColo wants out and we can get something for him, great. CoJo has proven his worth as a solid backup.
Gary Neal will get more money than the Spurs will offer him.
SO....first question is how much room would we have left under the cap if Manu comes back at a reasonable price?
Next question: what players stashed in Europe/Austin can come over and contribute if any?
Then: Who will fall to us in the draft? I've heard a few names here and there and looked at a few mock drafts. Some of them are completely full of BS and evidence that not many really follow or watch the Spurs. No, we don't need to burn a draft pick on a 6'0' point guard.
What are our needs? I'd say another athletic wing and/or a big. Kawhi is magnificent, is the future, cannot play 48 min a night. Someone who can play the 2/3 and defend.....Tony Snell is a name I've seen with a reasonable expectation he will be available. And he's a HS teammate of Kawhi, so there you go.
The only contract worth considering amnesty is Bonner and even then, he's reasonably cheap, a good teammate and community guy, and spreads the floor during the regular season. And yes, the regular season matters.....Not that winning 67 games is likel but games 6 and 7 ust now might have been alot different in the ATT Center. Bonner played stout D on Zbo and Gasol even in the WCF.
Many questions but I do not foresee an appreciable drop off in anyone. Tim is Tim and saved his best game for #6 in the finals.Some old dude for the Lakers was still winning into his 40's (Kareem) and while Tim isn't Kareem, he's got the fire and the ability to be a major piece for another year or two. Tony wasn't right after G3 and props to him for not making excuses. Kawhi will only get better, Danny has an identifiable(massive) hole in his game to work on (his handle and finishing skills)
The Spurs have just about the same chance of being right back here next year and obvious motivation to make about their 4th or 5th "last stand"
Lets see what happens but I can't wait to reload and come out fighting next season.
@Theopolis Hate to tell you but Baynes will foul out in the first 5 minutes.
manu needs to go ahead and retire but if not i would hope the spurs dont give him more then a vet minimum or the biannual exception.
splitter needs to be dealt around the deadline when we know his stock will be higher. i think nando just needs a bit more time, and at this point i dont see him having any value to trade away anyway. i always see him as a manu replacement more then a tony back up. if he could fill that manu role, then keep him. joseph was not bad but i dont know how much higher his ceiling really is, how far away he really is from it.
if the spurs wanted to they could make a huge splash this off season, and personally i would LOVE to see a josh smith type guy in there with duncan and leonard.
@JohnAbney The money isnt Manu problem its his inability to accept his declining skill set...i have said all this time that he cant take the game over late but as we seen game 6 and 7 he had to be the hero...
@ChrisCano If Manu goes and Jacksons paycheck obviously up. That leaves alot of money on the table - who can the Spurs bring? Could a team like the Spurs land a big fish even with cap space? Would a star like Igoudala look at this team? Or can management dig up another Leonard (and how would we get there in a trade situation?). There are plenty of players who are better than Manu now but can the Spurs get them?
I do agree with you guys. Jefferson is better offensively but would cost more money and average defender. JJ Hickson is a high energy defensively blocking shot but he is not very good offensively. Perhaps Spurs should offer Manu 5mil/yr for 2 year. Second year team option. We need to build the team balance both small and big that we can match up in the West and East.
We also lost to the Heat because our small line up is smaller and less athletic than the Heat. But we also need new players with playoff experience, have been in the war of playoff. We need players who can slash and drives to the basket, create fouls. We also need to have a better back up point guard. TP carries the team so much in the playoff with calf injury. That's why he played poorly in game 6 &7. Like I said, the Heat have 3 players can create shot, break down defense, and assists. We have virtually only TP. Manu is turnover prone. It is not a simple solution but Mr.Buford needs to open pocket book a little to get less players but more solid. I don't see the points to fill up 15 players on the bench but we have only 8 guys can play in the playoff and apparently the Heat bench plays big in every game of the series.
@ChrisCano @JohanBeijer I like Hickson, his energy would be great for this team. And Jefferson has got plenty of solid years ahead of him. Neal will probably get a deal simular to Greens, but he can't be first backup point guard.
If management does feel loyalty towards Manu going forward.. ..I'm afraid he will be getting more millions than a vets minimum though.
@JohanBeijer I personaly think we need a big like Al Jefferson, Okafor, Harrington or Hickson...all great fits for 14 15 mill except Harrington he should come cheap.
Then make a run some mid level vets and resign Neal
Spurs as you can see have a lot of room under the cap let the other teams fight for the maxed out contacts we can get some quality after they wait on dwight and Paul to decide what direction they are going to go