Rumors: Spurs interested in Josh Howard again? Green 'perfect fit' for Jazz?
According to Marc J. Spears of Yahoo Sports, the San Antonio Spurs are one team interested in signing
Utah Jazz free agent Josh Howard.
Jazz free agent Josh Howard getting interest from Mavs for Dallas return, source tells Y! Utah, Lakers, Nets, Spurs, Celtics also interested.
Speaking of the Jazz, they are also interested in Spurs' restricted free agent Danny Green, and according to a source, Green sees himself as a "perfect fit" in Utah writes Briant Smith of the Salt Lake Tribune.
On Green:
But he’s open to exploring his options and a league source close to the guard believes Green could be a perfect fit for a Jazz team that enters free agency needing to address 3-point shooting and perimeter defense — two of Green’s main strengths.
If you recall, last December when free agency period began in the 2011-12 season, the Spurs were trying sign Howard. It even got to the point where they flew him in for a meeting to persuade him to sign, he instead chose the Jazz.
Then, during the regular season, a report came out that the Spurs were trying to trade for Howard and the chip was Green.
From what these reports sound like, it seems Green might be looking to play elsewhere for a better deal and I'm not so sure why the Spurs have Howard set on their minds? From what I saw this season of him, he was injury prone for a bit and was almost a non-factor when the Spurs swept the Jazz in the first round of the NBA playoffs.
Howard looked like he lost a step and he's never been known as a consistent three point shooter. But, if the Spurs are trying to get back to a defensive oriented team, Howard could make sense at shooting guard since Kawhi Leonard and Stephen Jackson already play the small forward position.
Howard for Green, what is RC Buford thinking, we have Kawhi Leonard as our perimeter defender, who can also shoot so why would we need another one while losing Danny Green in the process. I don't get it.
Here we go again! For the love of christ! Have we NOT seen for last 4 seasons that we need a taller more athletic front court? The team needs to be built to beat the Thunder? Yet Pop and RC seem to think guards and smaller players will get it done? OKC drafts a 6'11" Forward and we go after a 6'3" two guard? If we still have Matt Bonner, DeJuan Blair and Tiago Splitter on the roster come next post season ( if the Spurs do make it into the post season?) I cannot see the team doing anything else other than what has happened in the last two, falling short and unable to defend taller teams?
Yeah, I got to agree with Tjaramil. How could you think that this team (a team that was 2 wins away from returning to the Finals) would not make the playoffs?! That's simply ludicrous. The Spurs are better than a lot of teams in the West as of right now. Of course, we have to wait and see what happens in free agency. Still, the Spurs will probably win the Southwest Division again, thus securing a playoff spot.
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@orangeblood85 Ok since you know all the answers who should have Pop and RC drafted? Oh I know they should have drafted that 7 foot future all nba starter sitting there at the 59th pick, right??. as far as your comment "if the spurs make it to the post season???" have you even watch a game since 1973. The spurs have only missed the post season 4 times EVER!!! As far as here we go again! Here we go again with people who dont understand basketball complaining and bitching about how the spurs need to do this or that and what happens ever yr...... the spurs are at the top of the league in best records and they are serious contenders. Oh and when they do contend next yr I bet your the first on the bandwagon. You should try being a Buck's fan your personality is more fitting for that team.
@Tjaramil Tjaramil, let me clarify something, I was at the very FIRST Spurs game in the Hemisfair Arena in 1973 and the tickets were only $8 at the time? I have seen every team, in person, that this franchise has put on the floor? I was a season ticket holder for 10 years before the team moved to the then SBC center, so I do know something about this franchise and understand basketball! So as a real Spurs fan, you are content to just get there and not win it all? The west is only getting better and yes I understand and saw what we did this year and last year in the regular season, but post season pressure to perform is different? The team could not make stops? Tim needs help. Can 6'3'' guards or 6'6" forwards stop guys like Ibaka or Perkins? Take a look at the Lakers pick at #60, 7' 250 center,Sacre from Gonzaba? Henry Sims, center from Georgetown was also available? Don't make comments about my personality, you don't know me? I am as frustrated as the next Spurs fan in the manner in which we fell short by two games? That was heartbreaking!
Guys, I said consult John Abney. He has all the answers. He posts "original" and "Close the truth" comments!
@rtesoro440 @Tjaramil @orangeblood85 There you go Tesoro, your trying to hard to "get me"..... Your welcome to continue to bring me up in random threads. I will admit its kinda creepy that you think of me so much though. Ask anyone around these parts who has the more original or realistic posts. I'm not the one repeating the same silly things trying to start some stupid catch frase or what ever. So tell me Tesoro what did bleacher report tell you we should trade/trade for?
spurs roster:
parker/de colo
ginobilli/denmon/howard
lenard/jackson
lobrek/duncan/ilysova
camby/splitter
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Hi guys. Ask John Abney, anything about draft and trade. He poses "original" and "close to truth" comments. He talks "with authority." He knows everything!
I feel that they should trade guard Gary Neal because I haven't seen any improvement on his part... And they should add a draft Pick or cash considerations?
Why are we so much obsessed with Howard and that too at the cost of Green? Howard could not play the entire 66 games season, leave alone the 82 games. He has not played the entire season for quite some time now. On the other hand, Green has shown improvement each year without going down with injury. Though those are good enough reasons to resign Green but at a reasonable cost. Otherwise, Spurs can also pursue the other Green (Gerard).
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We always go for players that are past their primes. We need to get young guns, or develop the ones we have.
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I'd thought we would at least try to land a big name like Hibbert. Then we just unload Blair, Bonner, and maybe even Green (sign & trade) for another quality player.
@Joey Ya! But instead green, maybe patrick mills or even Gary Neal! Spurs need a good guard right now to help out tony Parker... Manu can't be our hero rite now
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@Joey Hibbert got a max offer from Portland. No way we could afford a contract like that. I'm in favor of trying to keep the same team that was 2 wins away from the finals.
@nish21 @Joey Agree pop said they overachieved, but you have to overachieve to win a championship. Look how Dirk overachieved last yr. Lebron this yr. because the spurs overachieved does not mean lets break up the band and rebuild. A few added pieces and some luck and we get another opportunity to compete for a title. And just a added note not all teams are getting better through draft and free agency. A lot of dumb $ being thrown around lately.
@Tjaramil Blair was non-existent in the post-season, and Bonner was close to non-existent when the opposing team played good perimeter defense. I'm fine with trading those two.
@WOW @Joey So you think Pop started Diaw because he was a good passer. You obviously watch only highlight spurs games. Diaw is an above avg defender. Pop, Duncan, and Tony said so in interview. The announcers of games pointed that out several times in games. You don't crack a Popovich starting lineup unless you can play 1 on 1 defense i.e. kawhi.
@Joey @Tjaramil There's no team want Blair or Bonner if not for financial relief. They combined don't even worth a late 1st pick. And I don't like the idea resigning Diaw. Yeah he's a good passer in his position, but he is a average defender and very slow on his feet. How do you think if this guy was guarding Gasol, M.Gasol, Bynum, Randalph? He seemed he did ok in the WCF because Ibaka and Perkins are not scorers, or he would get torched inside.
@Tjaramil True. True; however, that was before Boris Diaw was added to our team. Re-signing Diaw is a big priority, too. After that, Blair fell out of the rotation.
@Joey Blair started for most of the season on a 50 win 66 game regular season. Bonner contributed also to getting the 2nd best record in the league. Agree neither contributed much but if we faced Denver and/or Mavs in the playoffs Blair would have contributed significantly. Also without Blair we would have had a very tired Duncan come playoffs.
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Howard...32 years old.injury prone. Green...25 years old...knows Spurs system...Simply depend on how uch $$'s Green wants. I would not g after Howard for anything more than vet minimum. Randolph 6'11"..225 lbs...lay him in the summer leaue to polish post game and feed him up to about 260 lbs..then talk to him!!!
@TomArmstrong Okay, it's not like Randolph is too skinny that he won't be productive. Remember a guy named Kevin Durant??
@ajd21 Durant goes 235+ and is not a center. If all we want is a 6'10" -6'11"outside shooter we might as well stick with Bonner!
@ajd21 Durant goes 235+ and is not a center. If all we want is a 6'10" -6'11"outside hooter we might as well stick with Bonner!
@TomArmstrong Durant is 6'9 without shoes. On DraftExpress, Anthony Randolph is listed as also 6'9 without shoes and 6'10.25" with shoes on. So both are about the same in height. So Durant is 10 pounds heavier, that's not a HUGE significance. Since Randolph is a post player, I agree, he should be around at least 240. But just because he's skinny doesn't mean he won't be effective. When Garnett was in his early 20's, he was 6'11, around 220 pounds, now he's listed at 253. I'm not saying I'm completely sold on Randolph, I'm just saying it wouldn't hurt to look at him right now. I mean, the spurs are thirsty for some athleticism.
I think Anthony Randolph would be a good fit for the spurs. He was just cut loose by the timberwolves. He has size, very good athleticism, and good ball handling skills for a big man. Not to mention he's 23. The only thing I would say is he could polish his post game a little. He loves to play above the rim, and looks like he plays NASTY. I read somewhere he was a bit of a knucklehead his rookie year, but hey, Stephen Jackson was a big knucklehead when he was younger and Pop knew how to coach him. He is now looking for a team and I think the spurs front office should take a good look at him. Randolph DOMINATED, and I mean dominated the summer league about 2 summers ago, so.......I think he would be a good fit for us. He didn't have the great stats in Minnesota, partly because he was backing up Kevin Love. Kevin Love is the best power forward in the NBA right now, and any young guy backing him up most likely won't get a lot of playing time. Tall body, athletic, and feisty......sounds like someone the spurs could use.
It's simple. Josh Howard plays with a whole lot of nasty. It's obvious when he plays he wants to defeat you physically and mentally. He has some Mario Elie in him. This season the spurs had to call up D. Green's old college coach to talk to him and get his head right. D. Green has a lot of potential but Howard would make the Spurs a better team right now.
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I don't think green wants to leave at all. I read a lot of his tweets, especially after they were knocked out. He's just said though, that he wants to do what's best for his family. which i think he's drawn a line in his head. I'm sure he'd rather play for the spurs if the difference was 2 million in the next 3 years. but i agree, he's not worth all that money just yet. But would you blame him if he signed on to a different team because they offered him several millions more? I think he'd rather return to be honest. One of his tweets said something like, "I hope all these guys come back next year. We've got some unfinished business." then he posts stuff saying he already misses the team because he hung out with them every day and stuff.
Howard is 32, prone to injury, showed NOTHING against us in the playoffs, I think there are better choces available!
Things to consider: Green may want more than Howrad by a few mil. He actually can handle the ball and get to the rim, he plays comparable defense, and likely would have stepped up in the WC finals,. He has a lot of playioff experience and we still can sign JA, who may have a bigger upside than Howard or Green, if he ever gets his head straight.. T Williams would also be a more versatile replacement for Green. If Green wants more than 3 mil, I think we have to look elsewhere for backup SG. We all like DG but he isn't worth 5mil or 4 mil, at least yet. This is all on 1 yrs PT success with long periods of bad shooting, poor ball handling, limited ability to drive to the rim and finish and unable to dribble under pressure.
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I like Danny Green but he is not worth a big time contract or anything above 6 million a year. If someone wants to pay him big bucks let them... He will end up like Roger Mason, Antonio Daniels, Stephen Jackson, and sooooo many other ex-spurs. I mean the history is there and the way our system works is we put our players in the best situation to succeed with their talents. It's funny how players like Green come to the Spurs and have a good year and then think they are worth the big bucks. Bottom line- you either want to play for a contender or your playing for a loser for the money. I'm not interested in Josh Howard however... I think their are better players in FA than him... That being said the Spurs need to do their best within reason to resign Green.. If not bring in DeColo.
@JosephPais I'm mostly with you Howard, as a backup, might not be so bad We have MG, and maybe JA, plus GN back to SG while CJ, Denmon or Mill to backup TP.
@jojo707 @JosephPais JA is an unrestricted FA, and according how he was treated contract-wise by the FO, there's no chances he will resign here.
Yep, I totally agree. I'd rather see the Spurs go after Camby since we're now just hearing reports about it.
@Emicris But seriously, I didn't mind josh Howard as a free agent, but I don't wanna give up Danny for him.
@24writer Howard is on the back side of his career a big mistake if S.A. does this! Never have been impressed with him
