While visions of Evan Turner may be dancing around in the head of San Antonio Spurs fans due to recent trade rumors, it appears that the team's extended run of success is coming back to hinder them.
As Bill Ingram discussed in his recent chat on BasketballInsiders.com:
“Yes, I’ve seen that rumor, coming from Ken Berger. What no one will stipulate to is what San Antonio would send to Philly. The Spurs don’t have what the Sixers are looking for, namely a quality first round pick. They could send an ending contract, but the Sixers already have that with Turner. Additionally, the Spurs are not a team that looks to make a big move mid-season, though the injury factor might inspire them to break that tradition. Charlotte has more to offer in terms of what the Sixers are looking for.”
With the Philadelphia 76ers looking to rebuild, they are not interested in getting veteran players or expiring contracts. They are looking to get younger players, who will require a smaller salary and give them more flexibility.
Most teams that are on the cusp of being title contenders have picks towards the end of the lottery, or in the middle of the first round that lottery teams covet. That way, teams are able to sneak back in and get multiple impact players in the same draft.
For the Spurs, their success has frequently landed them at the end of the first round, where most teams are reluctant to venture unless they are not able to find any other trade partners.
Courtesy of the ESPN Trade Machine, any trade that didn’t involve a draft pick would require the Spurs to give up some of their perimeter shooting assets. Which given the struggles the Spur have had, would mean parting ways with players like Danny Green and Matt Bonner, which may be a price the Spurs are unwilling to pay.
So Spurs fans, would getting Turner at the cost of losing Green and the Red Mamba be a trade you will be willing to make?
how about both, Young and Turner for Tiago and De Colo. Tiago is basically un-playable against key competitors with athletic bigs.
I like the idea of Taj Gibson. We need the defense more than anything. But I don't think Chicago will give him up. The best possible pickup for the spurs right now would be Trevor Ariza. Long, solid defender who wouldn't mess up the spurs' drive in and kick out to open shooters style, seeing as how Ariza is pretty good from 3 point range (40%). It's a stretch, but Ariza would fit perfectly for us.
Too bad it will most likely not happen:(
A big no way. Bonner and Green are big part of what we do well. They stretch the floor and make 3s Plus Danny usually guards the explosive guards. Go Spurs!
Why on earth would the spurs pursue Turner. He is near the end of his rookie contract and has not shown much promise. George Hill showed more at this point in his career than Turner has. Green is a much more valuable asset because he can spread the floor and play D. Bringing in Turner who shoots below 30% from 3 and plays little D for a couple of months would be ridiculous.
@quixem Turner definitely has a higher ceiling. Green is Spurs best/only 3 and D guy. Marco and Bonner can't defend.
@quixem Would you trade green for Turner or Young?
I don't think we have to part with two shooters, just one. Granted, if they would take Bonner, CoJo, and a first rounder for Turner, we may have already taken it.
I personally would love to see Turner or Young join our ranks. Turner is probably the more attainable asset because he is an RFA this year and they seem to be shopping him more. Turner's floor (if playing in a good system) is something a la Aaron Afflalo, I believe: a guy that can take over a game occasionally but may not produce consistently on a good team. His ceiling is much higher. This guy was picked 2nd for a reason, y'all.
As far as not making moves late in the season... I don't think that's borne out by the evidence in recent years. In each of the last two seasons, we made moves: in 2012 trading R-Jeff for Stephen Jackson (a big move involving starters) and in 2013 the release of Captain Jack.
The only way we could make that work would be to include a third team. Even then I would rather have Thad Young, he is a beast, has great hands, a great motor, and is ready to break out.
@autrader1 The D is championship level with Tiago. Go Spurs!
He "definitely" does? RT @JoeyTrevino361: Turner definitely has a higher ceiling. Green is Spurs best/only 3 and D guy.
Young because he's better. RT @JoeyTrevino361: Would you trade green for Turner or Young?
@SASpursSpirit victims of success cooties. .....
Interesting theory. RT @SASpursSpirit: Do we have cooties or something?
@quixem than Green? Hmmm I would think so because good shooting and driving ability. Better overall than Green.
@quixem if Spurs lose Green for Young would the perimeter defense take a hit? Or would defense stay the same
@quixem if spurs get Thad for green we would lose a good perimeter defender for a big. Our bigs defense is already good with TD and splitter
@JoeyTrevino361 Thought you were comparing Turner to Young.
@quixem Young or Diaw against Lebron/KD
@quixem Trading for Gibson could keep danny here in SA.Trading DG for Young wouldnt be so bad. Play Joseph and Kawhi against good backcourts
Long-term, it's better. Short term, maybe not. RT @JoeyTrevino361: so do you think that's a good sacrifice? Perimeter defense for Young?
@quixem so do you think that's a good sacrifice? Perimeter defense for Young?
Possibly. RT @JoeyTrevino361: if Spurs lose Green for Young would the perimeter defense take a hit? Or would defense stay the same