We are inching ever so closer to the kick off of the San Antonio Spurs training camp which means the team will be filling in their camp roster or keeping an eye out for undiscovered talent.
According to Hoops Hype, the Spurs will workout former Dallas Mavericks forward Rayshawn Terry.
Terry is 6-8, 232 lbs. and recently played in Ukraine for BC Khimik of the Ukrainian Men's Basketball SuperLeague. He was drafted in 2007 by the Magic but was traded to the Mavs on draft night and has been a journeyman overseason playing with several international squads.
There is a pattern in the recent reports of players coming in for a workout with San Antonio. Most have been forwards which should signal the direction and type of players the Spurs are looking for.
Though it is good to see San Antonio looking for size, it is still not quite the size the Spurs need to contend with the bigger teams in the NBA such as the Lakers and Thunder.
With Terry, the Spurs now have Brian Butch, Warren Carter, Tyler Wilkerson, and Derrick Brown.
What do you have to say Spurs fans? Think Terry is a keeper for the team?
I know this is off the topic but I am new to this page and I was wonderrig whats up with the pts thing you get on your comments? Also I am currently overseas and didn't get a chance to watch any of the spurs games last year and I gotta know did the refs cheat us in the thunder matchup? Someone please tell me cause that lost to the thunder last year is still a nasty taste in my mouth.
They are doing meaningless workouts, none of these raw prospect will stick to the roster eventually.
If the Spurs are not taking Blatche, it's for economy NOT any other reason like him being selfish, lazy or any of those like reputation. A player an only go so far being "BAD.". Bonner, Splitter and some others were given 2nd, 3rd chances, WHY NOT Blatche The Spurs love their $ is the bare fact so, they resort to signing unknown guys.
SPURS BEING CHEAP! trying to find that diamond in the rough! I hope they do! I feel we are 1 athletic big man away from winning it all!
I think that Brian Butch and Carter should be keepers. Butch should be signed if we don't get anyone else. Brown and Wilkerson aren't what we need. They could only fit if we trade away some of our guards.
@mrgodwin15 Hey buddy, welcome to the project. I think points are based on # of comments or time on board. And yes, even unbiased spectators have commented on a couple games in that series being some of the worst called games on record.
@rtesoro440 lol typical stupid post rt. If its NOT that Blatche has a TERRIBLE reputation, then why has NO OTHER TEAM SIGNED HIM EITHER? By your "logic" I guess ALL teams haven't signed him for "economy".lol
I see you STILL just cant accept the FACT that Spurs CAN ONLY SIGN A PLAYER TO AROUND A MINIMUM DEAL. You are just a lost cause.LMAO
And btw, comparing guys like Matt and TS, who have NEVER had the issues that Blatche has OVER AND OVER, is one of THE MOST asinine things I have ever read on the internet. smh
@SONofSAN sorry-tried to imput like -having computer problens
timmy and ginobli aint getting any younger! if it mean going into the luxury tax to win a championship, i say do it , give timmy that 5th! players like tim dont come to often! Sad to say but pretty soon spurs big 3 will be nomore!
I agree. I don't know why we haven't took a shot at him unless they believe the price would be too high. If they could get him it would be worth the shot.
Blatche may come more expensive compared to Butch or Carter or Wilkerson. If its true that Blatche will be interviewed by the Nets, the Spurs may just have lost him.
@Palmettoman Avery from Nets is reported to be interviewing Blatche in houston this weekend.
@mrgodwin15 Just curious why TW isnt what we need and Carter is when they are very similar in size and game.
YOU just can't help but contradicting me HAREBRAIN. Of course, the Spurs can go over the the CAP if they want to but they love their $ so much and they may sign Blatche if not for the pay. YOU yourself has said the Nets will interview him so not all teams are avoiding him KNUCKLEHEAD! YOUR SKULL IS JUST SO THICK YOU can't reconcile the fact. How many teams have gone over the CAP. Yeah, in point of efficiency, Blatche might be better than both Bonner and Splitter. If perchance he has issues, it might be attributed to the fact that he is "young" and maybe with the wrong team. YOU just open your ass so YOU can contradict me. Well, I take that as a complement but really, YOUR IDIOCY is glaring.
@SONofSAN With exceptions essentially used up, Spurs can Only pay at or near vet deals..Cap rules
@mrgodwin15 @Palmettoman Theres only one reason why Spurs or ANY other team hasnt snatched up Blatche already and $ has nothing to do with it..wiz are already paying him millions. Its his TERRIBLE reputation for being selfish,lazy, cancer on team, and a general headcase. There IS a reason why wiz are paying him over 20 mil just to GO AWAY.lol
TW is more of a small forward and he's not a shot blocker. Carter is a guy that focus on defense and doesn't worry bout scoring. We need someone to come off the bench and contest shots and Carter also seems to be a better rebounder and has longer arms.
@rtesoro440 lol rt..your nincompoopery astonishes me more and more everyday..YOU said"NO ONE can make the Spurs sign Blatche" I said "who said someone could MAKE spurs sign blatche" WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH ME SIMPLY SAYING SPURS SHOULD TAKE THE GAMBLE ON HIM??
Your total lack of comprehension is just STAGGERING. Did you graduate middle school? lol And are you actually calling Hoopsworld run by USA TODAY, one of the BIGGEST news outlets in print and net a SMALL DAILY? LMAO..DUMBEST>>>POSTER>>>EVER!!! haaaa
And whats a babbon, dolt? And still commenting on guys looks? Sorry son, I dont swing that way..lol And whats a Kucklehead? lol What's next junior? Dum dum head? Poopybrain? I know you are but what am I? HILARIOUS.. Ask mommy to change your pull ups, I sense some crankiness. lol
YOU SAID SO YOU MORON!. YOU said the Spurs should take a gamble on Blatche despite him being selfish, cancerous and etc. as YOU put it. YOU ARE NOT ONLY DEMENTED but suffering from loss of memory. YOU MUST BE VERY OLD, suffering from senility. Hey Gramps STOP! Just as I thought. Your authority is a staff member of some small daily. Clearly its his position that the Spurs can't go over the CAP and YOU PICKED it up like a PARROT. Come on repeat after me BABBON - UGLY FACE, KUCKLEHEAD, HAREBRAIN. Come on repeat after me!
@rtesoro440 lol rt, so you're only into pretty men? Big surprise..lol
Haa..I knew you would actually claim Larry Coon knows less than you do. You are truly delusional. You just have ZERO integrity and self respect. I actually feel sorry for you at this point. It's actually a shame that you aren't even man enough to admit you are wrong, especially when you are SO often. lol
I'd tell you to just go read cbafaq for yourself and see exactly how clueless you are about the cap, but it would be futile as its written in english (the language you butcher) and contains some big words well beyond your comprehension "skills"
Lol, who said someone could MAKE Spurs sign Blatche? Are you on crack or what?
If you are so knowledgeable about the cap, NBA, etc. and so much smarter than Mr Coon, why does HE have the position at Hoopsworld, while you only have the position of resident clown on ProjectSpurs?
But keep on posting the moronic drivel you do everyday so I can continue destroying you..lol
I bet YOU are an UGLY MAN. YOU EVEN HIDE YOUR FACE with a mask. Afraid you will be ridiculed? Go back to school and learn something. What you cite are the position paper of somebody as LOONY as YOU. Go ahead contradict me and cite as many authorities you want. The more YOU open your ASS, the more IDIOT YOU appear. I am very relax man, no tantrum just enjoying reading YOUR NON-SENSE, MORONIC, UNEDUCATED lines. HE he he, HAREBRAIN! But we are going far from the issue. NO ONE can make the Spurs sign Blatche if, they don't want to and skirting the matter by enlisting hardly heard of guys for reasons of economy. Simply put MORON, KNUCKLEHEAD they love their $ more. What you are citing are mere position papers nothing more. The fact is, the Spurs may go over the CAP if they see fit as dictated by their financial policy. Perhaps, they do not feel like paying the penalty. And yes, Blatche may be more effecient than Bonner and Splitter. No doubt they are keeping them because they are cheap and resort to unheard of players. But, as I said, it's a matter of spending their $. Try to convince others others, ok? Ha ha ha. YOU are killing me your jokes.
@rtesoro440 lol rt..if you can't handle being contradicted, then learn about the NBA and maybe you won't constantly write ignorant statements and invite posters to SCHOOL you! I NEVER said teams were AVOIDING him short bus..I said SIGNED him..big difference. And that's a FACT, no matter how butthurt you are about it junior. lol
From Larry Coon, renowned NBA cap EXPERT.."If a team uses an exception available only to non-taxpayers, they’re committed to being non-taxpayers. A team can’t, say, spend the full mid-level exception while under the tax line, then turn around and spend extra money and become taxpayers. So if a team uses the full mid-level or their bi-annual, their team salary can’t stray into tax territory for the remainder of that season — in other words, they’re hard capped." From his chat on hoopsworld http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-salary-cap-chat-with-larry-coon-83112/ Spurs HAVE used BOTH of those exceptions this year moron, so CLEARLY YOU ARE WRONG AGAIN!
But, I will bet that being the world class twerp that you clearly are, you will just IGNORE these FACTS and continue posting NONSENSE that YOU know better than I do on the cap as well as an actual EXPERT like Mr Coon. And when that happens, I will continue to PWN you here and prove to everyone just how clueless you are, as I have many times before. Just keep in mind that you brought this on yourself by constantly insulting posters here for absolutely no reason. I just happen to enjoy turning the tables on trolls like you, and exposing the ignorance you vomit up here regularly.
Insert your next hissyfit temper tantrum below junior ;)
@SONofSAN AND according to Larry Coon, cap expert, a team that has used non taxpayer exemptions like MLE and BAE as the spurs have, are essentially hard capped that year and cannot go into lux tax.
@rtesoro440 @mrgodwin15 @Palmettoman lol rt..Trades happen MOSTLY at DRAFT DAY, THEN they tend to start again at the beginning of TRAINING CAMP. HOW MANY TRADES HAVE GONE DOWN IN THE LAST MANY WEEKS? AGAIN you show how TOTALLY clueless you are about the game. THE SPURS CAN AFFORD TO BE PATIENT SHOPPING BLAIR. Spurs will be MUCH more likely to get a good offer for him AFTER the season starts, ESPECIALLY if he has a good start. Once teams see that they may need to fill a hole he could fill for them, OR one of their bigs gets hurt, THEN talks will heat up for him..ITS COMMON SENSE JUNIOR!! As I said before, his contract does NOT HAVE TO BE GUARANTEED UNTIL JANUARY! And Spurs have an open roster spot NOW, WITH Blair on the team! YOU are the ONLY moron that would even THINK about waiving a guy that CAN/DOES help the team WHEN THEY DONT EVEN NEED HIS ROSTER SPOT RIGHT NOW! Spurs have ONE OPEN ROSTER SPOT RIGHT NOW! DUUUH..If someone WERE to come in camp and be an OBVIOUS better choice than Blair then Spurs could just give him the OPEN roster spot!! Why do you NOT understand that?? THEN, if ANOTHER camper really impressed OR if ANOTHER teams camper was let go and SPurs wanted him more than Blair, THEN they could waive Blair and sign that SECOND player.. GET IT YET? You like to call everyone CHILDISH names like bonehead etc, but honestly, YOU ARE THE DUMBEST INDIVIDUAL I HAVE EVER SEEN ON THE ENTIRE NET!! lol And I did NOT say Blatche was "bad", I said he has a BAD REP..and he DOES!! A bad rep CAN BE FIXED!
lol..NDC was likely signed because NEAL FAILED AT PG and NDC is a combo! AND Neal's deal is OVER THIS SUMMER..DUUUH. If Neal was AWFUL like only YOU claim he is, Spurs would have ALREADY WAIVED HIM MORON. I have MANY times said that I think Blair and MAYBE Neal or Jax Will be traded SOME TIME before the deadline..And btw chump, stats are FACTS, so its no wonder why you want to ignore them! lol They fly in the face of your MO of just spouting NONSENSE that can NOT be backed up by stats or ANYTHING!
For ONE LAST TIME, I said I wouldnt mind if Spurs GAMBLED on Blatche if it was a NON GUARANTEED DEAL THAT COULD BE WAIVED AT ANY TIME. Otherwise, it's TOO MUCH of a gamble. THATS WHY HE IS NOT SIGNED ELSEWHERE IDIOT!!
The Spurs have been looking for a team that will trade for Blair to NO AVAIL. You simply don't want to accept that fact or in YOUR LOW LEVEL OF UNDERSTANDING YOUR GRAY MATTER CAN'T COMPREHEND IT, MORON! Its not a matter whether or not Blatche is better than Blair. Blair does not serve a purpose for the Spurs so the they looking to trade him and they can't PERIOD. If Blatche is so bad according to you, then why are clamoring for the Spurs to take in Blatche even for a while, if YOU ARE NOT KNUCKLEHEAD? As to Neal, aren't you wondering why deColo was signed? I am not wondering why YOU CAN'T USE YOUR GRAY MATTER because YOU DON'T HAVE ANY! You can give all the statistics you want, but the fact remains Neal is on his way out and Blair too if the Spurs find a suitable replacement. Hey, JUNIOR quit while YOU CAN. YOUR REASONING WON'T HOLD A DROP OF WATER. YOU ARE FULL OF HOLES BRAINDA
I ALREADY said they CAN be waived, but Spurs are 1000 times smarter than you and KNOW they COULD get something for them in trade this year before they have to be guaranteed rather than cut them now for NOTHING in return WHEN THEY DONT EVEN NEED THE ROSTER SPOT, AND COULD ONLY SIGN A PLAYER TO REPLACE THEM FOR A MINIMUM CONTRACT!! Blair scored near 10 PPG and5+ RPG in just 20MPG last year for 1.4 mil a yr! There are bigs that make 10 mil + a yr that dont get those #s moron! And GN got near 10 PPG and shot 42% in 3s last year and is one of the ONLY clutch shooters on this team! Show me ANOTHER guy that makes UNDER a mil a yr that does that!!WHY would spurs just cut them FOR NOTHING? THEY WON'T MORON!! NO team would!
Time to MAN UP, SMARTEN UP, AND QUIT EMBARRASSING YOURSELF here kid!
And here's some MORE facts for you to ignore..lol Blatche 8.5 PPG 5.8 RPG on 38% shooting Blair 9.5 PPG 5.5 RPG on 54% shooting and Blatche played 3 mins more per game, so Blair's #s are better ACROSS THE BOARD! And Blair got paid 6 million dollars LESS than Blatche last year..lol
But by all means, keep throwing tantrums, whining, and proving to all here that you know NOTHING about the NBA, and I will keep tearing your posts apart. ;)
Splitting terms, gamble, take a risk. What does these words imply/mean? I think YOU NEVER REACHED college, a mere kindergarten. Come on,just go back to grammar school PUPPY. Now YOU are talking sense. The Spurs give Blatche a non-guaranteed contract. YOU SEE THE FALLACY of YOUR reasoning? So a player with a non-guaranteed contract maybe waived anytime like Blair and Neal. A team may waived anyone not performing YOU admit. So Blair and Neal maybe waived. Dont get your shit that they performed because they didn't. At least YOU ARE CLEAR on that HAREBRAIN. I think YOU ARE "BRAINDA" - brain damaged, that is. HA ha ha.
@rtesoro440 @mrgodwin15 @Palmettoman lol rt, why do you think I used the word GAMBLE moron? Do you even know what the word means? Simply put (for a simpleton), If spurs can sign him to a non guaranteed deal, (which is likely all any team will give him because of his rep) then if he continues being more trouble than he's worth, Spurs just cut him and haven't lost a thing. SIMPLE. As MANY EDUCATED posters have said, if any team/coach could turn him around, it's Spurs.
AGAIN, if Blatche did NOT have a terrible rep, HE WOULD BE SIGNED BY NOW. Amazing how the simplest things just seem to be beyond your understanding. How do you even dress yourself? LMAO
If Blatche is such a lazy, selfish, cancer on a team and a general headache, as you say, why should the Spurs gamble on him? Are YOU CRAZY or just a plain KNUCKLEHEAD. I think he was square peg in a round hole at washington. Perhaps, playing with another team will bring the best in Blatche. Ugly Face, don't contradict yourself.
@rtesoro440 @mrgodwin15 OMG ARE YOU REALLY THIS STUPID?? IF Butch PROVED he would likely be better than Blair, THEN MAYBE spurs would just trade DJB for a 2nd or cash or whatever they could,OR waive him, THEN sign Butch..DUHHH But that wouldnt even NEED to happen before FINAL ROSTER CUT DOWN RIGHT BEFORE THE SEASON STARTS..lol DO you even know that teams can carry up to 20 players before the season? OBVIOUSLY you DON'T. You are like an 8 year old that has to have his binkey NOW NOW NOW! lol We all know that YOU think you are smarter than FO, coaches, posters here, NBA experts etc, BUT CLEARLY YOU ARE NOT. If it made ANY sense to just waive DJB OR GN NOW, Spurs would have DONE it! But it makes NO SENSE! PERIOD!
Spurs COULD waive Matt, but they WON'T! WHY DO YOU THINK THIS SO RARELY HAPPENS MORON??CLEARLY I meant guaranteed players cant be waived WITHOUT lingering cap AND salary implications. It does not help the Spurs because they STILL have to pay him. His deal STILL affects the cap, AND SINCE SPURS ARE OVER THE CAP BY 11MILLION DOLLARS, AND HAVE USED THEIR EXCEPTIONS THEY CAN ONLY GET ANOTHER PLAYER AT A MINIMUM CONTRACT!! You CAN'T waive a 3.4 mil player and just replace him with another 3.4 mil player IF YOU ARE OVER THE CAP DUMMY!! ONLY MINIMUM DEALS CAN BE OFFERED!! PLUS Matt is now essentially an EXPIRING contract, and those are sought after as the season rolls along. It could be a good trade chip, and teams WANT good trade chips..they DON'T want to waive players that can GET THEM SOMETHING IN RETURN. Lets put it in a way that you MAY be able to understand..if you have a TV you dont want anymore, do you try to sell it or pawn it, or just throw it away? DUUH And dont forget, if Spurs did get rid of Matt or Blair, they would HAVE to get some scrub that plays for minimum contract.. That is a HUGE gamble to throw away players that HAVE helped this team for some unknown player that NO OTHER team signed first (wanted), and that does not know Spurs system or coaches or players and very likely would NOT be as good as the player/s you lost. Spurs FO are PROFESSIONALS, and YOU are an armchair MORON that doesnt know the difference between NBA cap and the dunce cap you wear on your pointy head! lol Keep that in mind as you feel the need to claim you know better than pros do.
Heres the way it WILL happen, no matter HOW MUCH YOU WHINE ABOUT IT. IF Spurs see a player they really like in camp OR another FA, or another camper from another team, if they can get him at the minimum they will and will have a full roster. As the season unfolds and Spurs see what holes they may have and other teams do too, and injuries happen, THEN trades and such will happen..or they wont. You have to have two to tango. When it comes close to trade deadline THEN you will see a few waived players and teams that want to get under tax before its too late, and some teams even making some panic trades etc. BUT HEAR THIS WELL MORON..You are NOT going to suddenly find some great big that will sign for a minimum contract right now. NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU WHINE ABOUT IT. Blatche will likely be the ONLY NBA big that MAY sign a min deal, but he may NOT want to sign a non guaranteed deal, and given his AWFUL reputation, I am almost POSITIVE spurs would NOT guarantee him anything.
lol and as far as Butch goes, the guy was not even drafted, has never played an NBA game, and I would bet that he couldn't replace Blair's #s on his best day. And how about this..if Butch gets signed somewhere, I will bet you he doesnt get Blairs #s. If I lose I wont post here for the playoffs this year through playoffs next year and same for you. lol I bet you dont have the huevos to make that bet..
Right. If the Spurs gamble on Blatche as YOU propose, there is NO slot to be filled up anymore. What happens to Butch? Even a kindergarten can answer that. The Spurs will have then l6 players in the lineup. YOU ARE REALLY HAREBRAIN, if not IDIOT. As to Bonner, he can be waived anytime based on his performance, guaranteed or not to make way for a replacement. The same goes with Blair. This assures them of NOT MORE THAN 15 players. Going over the CAP or being subject to luxury notwithstanding, the fact remains that they must sign a big guy. If they don't it will be a shortened season for them. Apparently, YOU NOT AWARE of the implications of waiving somebody. It is to sign better. more efficient players. But I forgive you. YOU ARE UNLETTERED and I PITY YOU for that.
@rtesoro440 @mrgodwin15 lol OMG rt did mommy drop you on your head or what? I JUST said Spurs HAVE 2 players (Blair, Neal) with non guaranteed deals that CAN be waived, and NOW you're trying to say I said they CANT be waived? Do you understand the difference between CAN'T and WON'T? lol
IF a player like Butch came in and did GREAT in camp, Spurs could sign him RIGHT THEN MORON! Min deal would work WITHOUT WAIVING ANYONE..SPURS HAVE ONE OPEN ROSTER SPOT! DUUUH...IF someone ELSE came in and really impressed too, and Spurs thought he would be better than Blair or neal, THEN Spurs COULD waive one of them and sign the new guy at the MINIMUM!! DUUUH
And HERE is the set cap AND Lux tax threshold for 2012 twerp.. http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/21783/nba-sets-salary-cap
In BLACK AND WHITE : Salary Cap: $58,044,000 Tax Level: $70,307,000*
Spurs 2012 salary total $69,157,865 http://www.hoopsworld.com/san-antonio-spurs-team-salary
Since Im SURE that even 2nd grade math is beyond you, Spurs are $11,113,865 OVER THE CAP DUUUUUUUUUUUUH Once again YOU ARE PWNED BOY!
And, I said BUTCH would be redundant since Bonner is a spur..AND MATT HAS A GUARANTEED CONTRACT!! Do you know the difference between guaranteed and non guaranteed? LMAO
Please keep posting this nonsense so I can keep PWNING you for the whole net to see! I LOVE IT!! lol
Its unfathomable how THICK YOUR SKULL is. YOU INSIST that simply because some players are already with a team, they can't be waived. These players are given unguaranteed contracts so that they may be waived "if they find better players." Why is it so difficult for YOU to comprehend that? Thats MORONIC, KNUCKLEHEAD which even an unlettered should be able to understand but, YOUR learning is so so low its no surprise. IF perchance they find that talent in Butch or Blatche or whoever and they find themselves at the threshold of overstepping the CAP (by the way, they have not cross it), why can't they waive the former? YOU KEEP INSISTING they should not be waived. That is for the Spurs to decide NOT YOU HAREBRAIN! YOU KEEP INSISTING YOUR new found "authority". That is just your looney friend's position. I think YOU were born MR - mentally retarded, UGLY FACE. YOU SAY that the position of Bonner is redundant if Butch is signed. If so, why should the Spurs retain him for riding the bench? Why should the Spurs wasting precious $? They can't trade him because there are no takers. Maybe, the same could be said of Blair. Accept your reasoning is way offline and be a GOOD PUPPY. UP BOY!
And AGAIN, Spurs are committed to being a non taxpayer by cap rules (that even a 5th grader would understand), AND Blatche at vet min deal would likely NOT put Spurs into LUX TAX..AGAIN you say "if it would mean they go over cap" when Spurs HAVE been WAY over cap for MONTHS already! lol How many times must you be told that the cap and Lux Tax threshold are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS moron! And btw, there are only TWO players left with non guaranteed deals that COULD be waived, but they are PROVEN players that DO have at least some trade value, so only a MORON would just waive them without getting anything in return..ESPECIALLY for a totally unproven guy like Butch who has never even played ONE minute in the NBA! But let me guess, you probably think Spurs can just waive anyone and contracts are just pieces of paper that teams can ignore anytime they want..lol
And really, this is a sports site, not some man on man dating site, so perhaps you should curtail the comments on what guy is pretty and what guy isn't it.lol
If you are concerned with bulk and height then why not Butch? As I said, they should take the risk with Blatche even it would mean going over the cap. Maybe they can try waiving some of their assets and sign Blatche and Butch after all TD may decline the 3rd year of his contract. It will be learning curve for both of them. YOU are full of contradictions. Use the gray matter between your ears. for a change. And, don't hide your ugly face.
@mrgodwin15 Actually TW has always played PF, is considerably bulky to play SF, led his Marshall team in blocks and rebounding almost every year while shooting well above 50%. TW actually had better rebounding #s in college than Carter too.
I will give you that Carter has the better reach, but #s point to TW having a more well rounded game. One of my primary concerns on Carter would be that he lacks strength for PF. He would get pushed around at 220.